During the reign of Prince Maximilian Heinrich von Bayern, a man named Johann LISTE came to Hildesheim between 1650 and 1662 as private secretary to a Count BELDERBUSCH. (See "Deutscher Volksgesang in Stadt und Stift Hildesheim vor hundert Jahren" by Joh. Jakob, in: Caecilien Vereins Organ, Jan/Feb 1918, Issues 1/2, Vol 53, pp 2-4.) At the same time, the Hildesheim church books note in the death records for the date SEP 8, 1697 the death of one Joachim LISTE a cancellista, or secretary. Was this the same person? Joachim and Johann look similar in handwriting.
The noble family named Belderbusch had many ecclesiastical and political ties to Hildesheim. There is a Count Clemens Belderbusch mentioned in the Hildesheim church books for 1797 as having been a Domherr in Hildesheim, Paderborn, and Speyer. This was Clemens Vinzenz Franz von der Heyden genannt Belderbusch (*1754, †1821), who is mentioned on page 206 of the Genealogisches Reichs- und Staats-Handbuch auf das Jahr 1799, zweiter Theil (Frankfurt am Main), as being "Clem. Vincenz Gr. von der Heyden, gen. Belderbusch zu Strievenstorp und Monzen, Domcap. zu Hildesheim und Speyer, auch Probst des kaiserl. Stifts zu Aachen." This count's g-g-g-grandfather was Leonhard Alfons von der Heiden gen. Belderbusch, born Jan 22, 1636. http://www.geneall.net/D/per_page.php?id=1782765 Was that the count for whom LISTE was secretary? From what I can tell, the primary seat of these barons/counts was Streversdorp Castle about twelve kilometers west of Aachen, in Limburg, in present-day Belgium.
Nicolaus was my sixth great grandfather.
According to Hildesheim Catholic church records, Nicolaus was possibly the son of a Johann or Joachim LISTE. However, according to unsubstantiated information online (source unknown), Nicolaus' father's name was also Nicolaus, while his mother was a Maria, who died JUN 4, 1679 in Moritzberg near Hildesheim, Germany. At any rate, according to Hildesheim Catholic church records, Nicolaus was a cobbler (sutor=shoemaker) at Moritzberg. He was later also sexton (bell-ringer) at the St. Margaretha church there. He died in Moritzberg on APR 15, 1739 and was buried there on APR 17 of the same year at the age of 79.
His first marriage was to Maria Margaretha MEYER sometime before 1698. She died on OCT 17, 1726. He then married Rosina VERSE at Moritzberg on JUL 15, 1727. She died MAR 7, 1742 at Moritzberg and was buried there on MAR 9, 1742. After becoming a widow she re-married to Johann Wilhelm WÖCKER from the town of Erwitte on JAN 30, 1740. He died at Moritzberg on APR 14, 1741.
Records have been found for seven children of Nicolaus LISTE. All were born at Moritzberg and christened at the St. Mauritius church there.
Clemens LISTE was a fourth great grandson of Nicolaus mentioned above (died 1739) and he was my third cousin twice removed.
More specifically, his great grandfather Johann LISTE was a brother to my third great grandfather Anton LISTE. Clemens was born in Pomerania (Ger. Pommern) in modern-day Poland in the town of Dramburg. In Polish the name is Drawsko Pomorskie. He was christened in the catholic church in Schivelbein (Polish Świdwin), a village in West Pomerania. At his christening were several witnesses, or as they're called in German Taufpaten. His father Clemens LISTE (born 1836) is named, his occupation given as Gerichtsdirektor (Court Director). Clemens senior was a lawyer, as had been the grandfather Clemens (born 1807). Three generations named Clemens LISTE. All three attended university at Göttingen. Other witnesses at the christening included Anna LISTE, the child's aunt from Brilon; Jule VON KLEIN, Amalie VON KLEIN, and Anton GRUCHA all hailing from Vienna, Austria. Further, there were the child's aunt Chlothilde LISTE, who was a school teacher in Vienna, and Stephanie VON SAUER. Stephanie was undoubtedly from the mother's side of the family: baby Clemens' mother was Hedwig née VON SAUER. Finally, a Peter Siedeck from Vienna is listed as witness; his profession is given as factory director (Ger. Fabrikdirektor).
Peter Karl Siedeck (or Siedek as it is usually spelled) was from a prominent Viennese family. Born in 1815 in Prague, Bohemia, he was the son of a master weaver. He studied technology in Prague. Not long thereafter he became director of a beet sugar production facility in Napajedl, established by the Count Georg STOCKAU (1806-1865). From Napajedl, Peter soon developed a reputation as a technical expert in the construction and equipping of sugar beet production facilities. In 1872 he relocated to Vienna, and in 1873 took over the administration of the estates of the Counts of Herberstein in Bohemia and Moravia. The HERBERSTEINs owned a sugar beet facility in Pohrlitz. Also very much involved in sugar beet production was the VON SCHOELLER family of industrialists. Owner of the sugar beet facility in Napajedl, the Count Georg STOCKAU (see above) was a colleague of Philipp Wilhelm VON SCHOELLER, who owned sugar production facilities Čakovice, Ctěnice, and Miskovice near Prague. He had acquired them from his uncle Alexander VON SCHOELLER (1805-1886) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_von_Schoeller who lived in Vienna at the same time as did our Peter Siedek, godparent to Clemens LISTE. The men undoubtedly knew each other. Was it a coincidence then that Clemens LISTE's third cousin Zdenko LISTE (born 1871) got a job working at the SCHOELLER sugar production facility in Čakovice in 1913?
Zdenko LISTE (1871-?)
Zdenko was my third cousin twice removed.
More specifically, his great grandfather Franz Philipp LISTE was a brother to my third great grandfather Anton LISTE. I don't know much about Zdenko yet. According to the family tree Anna shared with me, his father was one Wilhelm LISTE. Wilhelm's father in turn was also Wilhelm, born 1811 in Hildesheim (died 1844!), son of the organist Franz Philipp LISTE (1774-1843). Zdenko's mother was a Marie née FIBICH. Based on the name Zdenko, we conclude some sort of Slavic influence. One version of the old family tree says that Wilhelm senior was an Ökonom (agriculturalist) in Bohemia. Another version puts him in Brünn in Moravia. His wife was a Marie née LEETZEN. Wilhelm junior had a sister named Sofie, who married a DEUTGEN (or DEUTZEN?). A third child was named Marie. The name DEUTGEN crops up elsewhere in the LISTE genealogy, namely Wilhelm LISTE senior's brother Carl LISTE (1820-1900) arranged and published some church music based on melodies by Rudolph DEUTGEN (+1787) entitled Choralbuch zum katholischen Gesangbuch von Deutgen which apparently was published by Kornacker in the 1860s. Whether the DEUTGEN connection is a coincidence is unclear, but some sort of link seems at least plausible. At the same time, it is striking that the VON SCHOELLER and DEUTGEN families were prominent industrialists in 19th century Düren (in Northrhine-Westphalia). Whether it is the same DEUTGEN family as Sofie LISTE's husband is not yet clear. The Alexander VON SCHOELLER mentioned above was born in Düren in 1805, but quickly found his life in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. His wife's great grandmother was a DEUTGEN by birth (See http://www.heidermanns.net/gen-pers.php?ID=57556).
Oskar TENGE (1832-1913)
Oskar was my second cousin thrice removed.
More specifically, Oskar was my great grandfather's second cousin. Oskar's grandmother was Magdalene LISTE (1778-1862), who was the younger sister of my great(3) grandfather Anton LISTE (1772-1832). Magdalene had married a nobleman named Johann Hinrich VON HARTEN. Their children married well in terms of social class and wealth. Oskar had an illustrious career as Deichgraf (literally "Count of the Dikes") in the Weser marsh area of the North Sea coast in Germany, in the Duchy of Oldenburg. I'm not sure what all that entailed, but know that he was in charge of making sure dikes functioned. In 1903 he was a councillor in the state planning ministry (Geheimer Oberbaurat, Vortragender Rat im Staatsministerium). He was awarded Honorable Knight First Class in 1902 (Ehren-Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse) and Prussian Order of the Crown Second Class (Preußischer Kronenorden 2. Klasse mit Stern) in 1906, for his career accomplishments. He married Julie Dorothea GOLDSCHMIDT. Their (?only) daughter, Hedwig, married a Peter BECKER (1851-1928) in 1888 in Oldenburg. He was a senior-level judge (Amtsrichter, Landgerichtsdirektor in Aurich, Geheimer Justizrat). Their son Tjark BECKER (born 1889 in Oldenburg) was a lawyer who married Ernestine "Loulou" MAMMEN (born 1882), a sister of the famous Berlin artist Jeanne MAMMEN (1890-1976) http://www.jeanne-mammen.de/ . I've found an online reference that they had a son named Peter Folkert BECKER, born 1923 in Zeesen, Dahme-Spreewald, Germany. Peter was (?is) thus Oskar's great grandson.
Louise SCHNACK (1840-1876)
Louise was Oskar TENGE's sister. On 29 May 1867 she married Gustav SCHNACK (1839-1920) the Danish War Minister from 1896-87 and again 1899-1901. Their daughter Julie (1871-1963) married Count Hemming Vilhelm Moltke of Bregentved (1861-1927). His great grandfather Joachim Moltke was the Prime Minister of Denmark from 1814-1818. Their descendants (my fifth cousins) reside to this day on the Bregentved Estate at Haslev, Denmark http://www.bregentved.dk/ .
